Interview near Roswell 2007 about Richard Hoagland’s
new book Dark Mission
Hoagland and Spaceship One at Libertarian Convention in Denver May, 2008
“So the ultimate agenda for NASA is to get back the stuff they think is theirs in the first place.!"
PH( Paola Harris) But even the Aliens that don’t look like us, that are kind of small, and inbred, those are not other planet B.
RH:((Richard Hoagland)A jury can make anything out of it.
PH: Genetic engineering can have worker bees.
RH: There are all kinds of models.
PH: So in this model, it’s all us. Those people are the past. So are we looking at what could be their future?
RH: Well, the stuff is there from the past.
PH: I have a lot of stories where US from the future comes back to tell us that, and it gets very hairy.
RH: Telling you stuff and being able to transmit technology are two different things. Information may be able to travel through time, but physical objects may not.
PH: So we’re dealing with an ancient past that is us, and we’re just reclaiming our stuff.
RH: Well I think that’s what they think. Because they act very territorial, very provincial. Like you can’t have it, that’s mine. And when Kennedy tried to share it, they killed him.
PH: Why did Kennedy want to share it with the Russians?
RH: As with one planet. Because the planet almost killed itself with nuclear war. He came a whisper away from the Cuban missile crisis. So he and Kruschev realized they needed something bigger to get everybody to stop fighting each other. This is exactly what I’m going to say on national TV next Friday about the stupid nonsense about Roswell and the two factions. I’m going to lay them out in spades and how the insanity of claiming to be operating on behalf of all mankind and you can’t get along with the guy across the street? This is nutso. These are people who are walking hypocrites, who are only in it for the bucks. Not in it for enlightenment, not in it for humanity, and I have no compunction about saying that, because it’s never been about UFOs. Particularly now that Walter Haut has risen from the grave and has given them what they’ve been looking for.
PH: Actually, I have another statement from Corso that was given to me this morning, it was transcribed from a tape I’ve never published. It says almost the same thing. He also saw live bodies. I didn’t know that. He also saw the craft at Wright-Patterson. I didn’t know this because I had this tape recording, he’d gotten off the Tonight Show in Italy and I had the tape recording on and it was just gabbing between me, Maurizio and him, and he comes out with this stuff. I thought, I don’t know if I can put this stuff out. I don’t even know if I can put it out now, but I can give you the name of the reference. I will give you the name of the scientist he says was with him.
RH: Are we getting far afield?
PH: So Walter Haut – and you think that’s a program, sixtieth – and you expect more this year?
RH: Is the Pope Catholic?
PH: So the ultimate agenda for NASA is to get back the stuff they think is theirs in the first place.
RH: Yes.
PH: Now does all of NASA know this, or just part of NASA?
RH: No the lies are different at every level. It’s in the book. Originally, in 1958 – remember, the space program began as a competing set of military efforts. The Marines, the Navy, the Air Force, they were all competing with each other to go to the moon, launch satellites, beat the Russians. The services have always competed.
PH: What Paul Hellyer said he was doing in the sixties was a monumental task of joining all the services together. One service, one thing he said because in America they were all fighting each other. Going back to that…
RH: So what Eisenhower did, obviously on the recommendation of people pulling the strings behind the scenes, was to create a separate space agency outside of the military services that would be technically still under the national security directives. The National Security Council, the Pentagon, the DoD, but would look like it was civilian. In fact, it’s not. That was another lie. It’s a cover. It’s always a cover.
PH: Eisenhower was the first one to put it together.
RH: Yes, in July of 1958.
PH: Eisenhower knew a lot.
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Paola and Hoagland and friends in Denver
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