The book 2012:A War for Souls by Whitley Strieber debuts at the Tattered Cover Bookstore- Denver, Colorado
An Exo-political discussion with this famous author about "The Elephant Stampeding in the Living room"!
By Paola Harris
October 28th 2007
From left: Whitley Strieber, Paola, Alejandro Rojas(Webmaster), Ann Strieber
PH: I ‘d like to discuss your journal entry of the elephant stampeding in the living room, that I have on my web site. You are basically saying we’re not doing anything about this issue until the elephant is actually stampeding in the living room. Until there’s an end to secrecy out there and the truth emerges, we’re faced with this huge problem and then we have no preparation, no protocols in place, no nothing.
WS: Right, we have nothing, and there must be a vast amount of knowledge on the ground that is being ignored in the form of the witness experiences. These are valuable because taken as a whole, if you were able to interview these people extensively, examine them physically, the meaning of what’s happening to them would be almost certain to emerge. If you were able to study the imprint, the objective manner, there would be new knowledge found there, and that’s just in the witnesses. If we made a serious effort to analyze what UFOs actually are and where they’re seen, the weather and atmospheric conditions, the electromagnetic conditions under which they’re observed, we might be able to learn something objective about what they are, and even, conceivably, where they’re from. The catastrophe of the secrecy is probably one of the greatest of all human catastrophes because it’s completely clear that whatever is causing the phenomenon, it is new knowledge. It should not be rejected knowledge. It is rejected knowledge, and I think that there are a number of reasons for that. First, there was a mistake made early on when this was classified. I think it caused whoever’s out there to kind of become complicit in the secrecy, in the sense that if our government didn’t want us to know, then they wouldn’t tell us either, because they figured that we knew better than they did as to whether or not we should know.
PH: Other countries are dealing with it in a different way, Whitley. Why?
WS: I suspect, though I can’t prove this, that the way the United States reacted to it initially by keeping it concealed from the public and probably by acting in a hostile manner, caused a disaster. In other words, it destroyed what would have been a very fruitful experience of contact. They reacted by being very secretive.
PH: You mean the visitors.
WS: Yes, the visitors. They’re very secretive. If they weren’t, we would know a lot more. I tried everything under the sun to get some physical evidence of them.
PH: Do you think that would make a difference with people?
WS: Sure!
PH: People say, show me a piece of a UFO. I don’t think that would make any difference. I think a lot of people would be upset by it, it would change their whole paradigm and they’d rather just watch the game. Don’t bother me with this, because then you disrupt my comfortable life, and everybody’s comfortable in the United States especially. You’re giving people something they can’t swallow, and they don’t want to know. We do, but that doesn’t mean everybody does.
WS: What troubles me about it is that the visitors are so secretive. I don’t know whether it’s because we were so secretive and therefore they took that as their cue, and thought that was what we wanted, or are they secretive because we wouldn’t want what they’re doing and it would be very inconvenient if we knew, because people would resist in a more organized way? Right now, nobody resists. They come and go as they please. But if we knew something we didn’t want, there might be neighborhood guards with lights, there might be a real effort made to keep them away from us, and that might make it much harder for them to do what they want to do. But I don’t know the answer to that question, and nobody does. Maybe someone in the government does. I just hope, I’ve never been hurt and I’ve followed up many scary stories of people who’ve been hurt, and I could only find two where there’s any evidence that anything terrible happened. One is the Todd Sees (?) case, in White Mountain, PA a few years ago, where a couple of people reported seeing a bright light coming down out of the sky and a man going up into the light. They reported that at the National UFO Reporting Center. Linda Howe and I picked it up and she was following up on it, and this disappearance occurred. This man, Todd Sees, was reported missing. His four-wheeler was found in a woods about a mile and a half from his house. Dogs were brought in to track him and they couldn’t find any scent of him except on the vehicle itself. This suggested to me that he went up into the air. They could never track down the two farmers who had reported this so they could find him. It is mysterious.
In my own case, this happened in my life for eleven years. They were coming into our house, where our children were, and other people’s children, routinely. The parents all knew it, we told them. We disclosed everything to the other parents, of course. My son had children up to play with him. He never felt threatened. I was scared to death, but I never saw – to the point where I couldn’t come face to face with them on the occasions that I was able to. And they finally – I never felt a sense of evil. I felt that they were nice. They weren’t hard on me. They were very demanding, intellectually and emotionally, yes.
PH: That’s very interesting.
WS: They abducted my wife and my family too. And no one was ever hurt.
PH: Can I ask you why you use a metaphor, the Elephant Stampeding in the Living Room?
WS: Because the elephant is huge. There are millions of people who have seen UFOs and who have had this experience of close encounter. But we act like it doesn’t exist. We’re sitting here in the living room with this big elephant, and we’re just ignoring it.
PH: That brought it home so much. My new book, Exopolitics, is about protocols and challenges for future contact that need to be done right now and not when finally it’s obvious. There are nine protocols, one of which has to do with the Varginha case, the military policeman who picked up one of the little creatures and put him on his lap. He didn’t put any covering down, and the next thing we hear is that this 24 year old guy is dead from tumors. Something should have been done there. There should have been some protocol for interacting with these beings.
WS: When the visitors would show up at our house, you had to be really careful with allergies. I couldn’t eat chocolate when they were coming. I wasn’t allergic to it, but it was like a tripwire allergy. If I ate chocolate covered strawberries, it would cause a big histamine rush because I’m slightly allergic to strawberries. They didn’t want a situation where, knowing that I was allergic to them, which I did not know of course, that I was eating other things that were activating histamines. I went to an allergist for about six months and he gave me little phials and I injected myself, and the allergies became much better including the allergies to the visitors. One day two or three years later, I was walking past his office in Manhattan, and I thought, I’ll go up and see him and tell him what a good job he did, because he really cured my allergies. They’d never heard of him at the doctor’s office, didn’t know who he was at all.
PH: Wow, that’s strange. They didn’t know who he was?
WS: He was just as normal and ordinary, I’d never have dreamed there was anything unusual about him.
PH: Did you write about this at all?
WS: I might have. I don’t really recall. The other thing is, I can’t remember where I got his name. I remember going to his office, I just can’t remember how I found him.
PH: Can you eat chocolate now?
WS: Yes, I can. I don’t have any allergies now.
PH: One of my concerns about your article was that I think some of this should be given to the public. The idea of protocols, you don’t go up to aliens, you don’t touch them, you don’t shake hands with them until you know the protocol for that particular group. You need stand very still.
WS: They can touch you. They have a way of….if you touch them, you would probably have an allergic reaction. But if they touch you, you feel this electricity in your nerves, and you don’t have an allergic reaction. But if it’s the other way around, you do, and I warn people, you just don’t pat them if you see them.
PH: Well, it’s logical. This is a phenomenon that requires some ground rules.
WS: When you’re with them, it feels more like taming an animal. It feels like being with an animal that’s more intelligent than you are. It’s not like being with a human being. There is a total disconnect in culture. Their faces don’t work like our faces, they’re like little forest animals, though not from any forest I ever saw. That’s what people say. This woman said, they came in through the window, I thought it was a raccoon. And then I realized it wasn’t, it was one of these creatures.
PH: The mistake we make here is in measuring everything against ourselves. We can’t know what they are because we’re comparing them to us, and they’re not us. We need to develop communication skills and now is the time. Thank you for sharing your Experiences.
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